Approximately 25% of the time, the Undo command is simply not available, or only the last 2 or 3 commands are undoable.  Also, certain commands are often missing from the Undo list (ie the commands I performed just before and after a certain action are listed, but one is missing) Is it just me?

(PS I haven’t installed 2009 Service Pack 1, but I don’t see this topic listed among the fixes)
3ds Max Design 2009 32 bit, Direct3d 9; Win XP SP2 32 bit with 3GB switch
(and no intellimouse)

--3ds Max Design 2009 64bit, Direct3D 9, Win Vista Premium 64, 3ghz quadcore Xeon, Quadro FX1700--

the same for me!
max2009 is definatly not usable in production !

its not broken. its just how it works… how its always worked.

certain operations will wipe out the undo stack - reset xforms and colapsing being a few. some operations dont go into the stack at all, and others (like some script based things) eitehr get broken into many undo items or lump many operations into one.

undo is also context sensitive, like undoing uv unwrap operations, or viewport changes.

its a strange system and indeed, easy to get burned by if you arent paying attantion and saving/holding regularly, but its not “broken’ and has never been a real production issue since its always been like that right from max 1.

as for the res of max 2009… yeah, its pretty damned broken :P

Sorry to disagree, but it is indeed broken (or maybe damaged would be a better word)...the stack is often empty for no legitimate reason, and commands that are normally undoable are sometimes missing from the stack.  The latter case is actually worse because it is so confusing!

--3ds Max Design 2009 64bit, Direct3D 9, Win Vista Premium 64, 3ghz quadcore Xeon, Quadro FX1700--

After this crashed UNDO on max 2009 I go back to max2008 and guess what? THE SAME !
I use 3ds max from 10 years now, and I never meet this error. Don t say its always been there. I currently creating a charaacter rig and every time I enable the animation button I meet this damn undo error. I never see that before and I seriously need a solution.

I have seen both the loss of UNDO which requires Max to be restarted and the attmpt to use UNDO and have Max Crash.

Seems to happen often in 2009, but there is not a repeatable pattern as to how to get it there.

David

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Yes, we also noticed the broken undo in Max 2009. But the grey undo was was the least of our 3d Max 15 problems. network rendering, not using pan MMB, slow views, much crashing…

Robert,

Have you installed SP1?

Since we did, a good share of the problems improved to managable…

David

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ddustin 27 June 2008 07:16 PM

Robert,

Have you installed SP1?

Since we did, a good share of the problems improved to managable…

David

Thank you for the suggestion David, but I was one of the first to install the 3ds max 2009 trial and probably one of the first to uninstall, so I did not wait for SP1 to uninstall. If SP1 fix all these problems then perhaps Autodesk should have waited until product was ready and not release bug software so early? Should my company have to pay good money to do beta test for Autodesk? I think max will only go downhill the more bloated, more plugins, and more code is added onto the very old core. I think 2009 is worst release ever? I think perhaps Autodesk has no love for users anymore, just love for users money?

We have 5 seats 3ds max 9 and vray and I doubt our company will ever upgrade because they work very nice! We also use SketchUp now.

I’m not upset with you David. You are very nice for trying to help. thank you! If you say 2009 is much better now after SP1, perhaps I should install trial with SP1 and try again?

RobertFunk 27 June 2008 08:19 PM

ddustin 27 June 2008 07:16 PM

Robert,

Have you installed SP1?

Since we did, a good share of the problems improved to managable…

David

Thank you for the suggestion David, but I was one of the first to install the 3ds max 2009 trial and probably one of the first to uninstall, so I did not wait for SP1 to uninstall. If SP1 fix all these problems then perhaps Autodesk should have waited until product was ready and not release bug software so early? Should my company have to pay good money to do beta test for Autodesk? I think max will only go downhill the more bloated, more plugins, and more code is added onto the very old core. I think 2009 is worst release ever? I think perhaps Autodesk has no love for users anymore, just love for users money?

We have 5 seats 3ds max 9 and vray and I doubt our company will ever upgrade because they work very nice! We also use SketchUp now.

I’m not upset with you David. You are very nice for trying to help. thank you! If you say 2009 is much better now after SP1, perhaps I should install trial with SP1 and try again?

Robert,
No worries here....

I agree the we should not pay to Beta test a program. I liked Max 9 for it’s stability, but 2008 and 2009 seem to be greatly improved in viewport speed in that regard.
Seriously speaking (and I am a very vocal software owner and user), I think 2009 is looking good at this point.

I also agree that we don’t need more features, just make what is there.. Stable. Unfortunatley that doesn’t seem to pay the bills.

David

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Ok so you think that the upcoming release just add new functionalities over and over because that makes money, and the software will not be debuged because that s not make money?
What do you think about users??
they are professionals! they prefer have a stable software much more than an unstable one with more functiunalities.

If it s the new autodesk politic I think I will definatly swap to another