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I’ve got a scene where I can’t snap to any vertices on existing geometry. Whilst creating a cube, I can snap to the existing geometry. After creating this cube I can no longer snap to the cube to move it accurately. This is very strange!
Any ideas if there’s an option I’ve inadvertantly changed thats causing this behaviour?
I’ve reset max, and merged the scene in to make sure the maxfile wasnt corrupt.
patrick.reformstudios.com
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There’s a few settings relating to snaps. If you open Max, create 2 cubes and still see the problem then save the scene, zip it and attach it to a reply so we can take a look.
Max 4.2 through 2013.
XP-64 (SP2)
NVidia 9800GTX-512 (Driver 266.58).
Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz, 8Gb Ram, DX9.0c.
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Well it was something in my ini file that was the problem.... removing my ini file so max reverted to default solved the problem. Unfortunately I can’t recreate the problem because I accidentally copied a fresh ini file over my old one in the process of trying to work out which parameter was causing the problem.
Thanks for the offer of help anyway :)
patrick.reformstudios.com
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Shame. Not that you fixed it :D but that you don’t have the .ini - a bit of investigation might have let to the options which got changed.
Always take a copy of files like that before deleting/editing etc - but you know that now :P
Max 4.2 through 2013.
XP-64 (SP2)
NVidia 9800GTX-512 (Driver 266.58).
Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz, 8Gb Ram, DX9.0c.
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aye.... indeed.
Notepad ++ was a bit too clever and updated the the ini I had open with the one in the folder… I clicked on the pop-up to accept the update before I realised what it was asking…
patrick.reformstudios.com
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You’re in luck. My scene crashed max, and it seemed to mess up my snaps again.
Here’s the ini file.
[HeightManagerMetric]
CurrentHeight=-1
Heights=1.500000 2.400000 3.000000 3.600000 6.000000
[HeightManagerUS_Standard]
CurrentHeight=-1
Heights=5.000000 8.000000 10.000000 12.000000 20.000000
[HeightManagerCustom]
CurrentHeight=-1
[Material Editor]
3DMapScale_Meters=3.000000
3DMapScale_Inches=100.000000
DefaultTextureSize_Meters=1.000000
DefaultTextureSize_Inches=48.000000
AmbientColor=0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
DontAnimate=1
[Directories]
ProjectFolder=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE
Fonts=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\fonts
Scenes=.\MAX
Import=.\DWG
Export=.\MAX
Help=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\help
Expressions=.\SCRIPTS
Previews=.\RENDER\PREVIEWS
Images=.\MAPS\BAKE
Sounds=.\
PlugCFG=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Autodesk\3dsmax\2008 - 64bit\enu\plugcfg
MaxStart=.\MAX
VideoPost=.\RENDER
Heidi Drivers=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\drivers
AutoBackup=.\BAK
Materials=Z:1_MAPS
Scripts=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\scripts
Startup Scripts=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\scripts\startup
Defaults=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\defaults\MAX
RenderPresets=.\RENDER
RenderOutput=.\RENDER
Animations=.\RENDER
Archives=.\BAK
Photometric=Z:1_MAPS\ies
RenderAssets=.\MAPS
Additional Scripts=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Autodesk\3dsmax\2008 - 64bit\enu\scripts
Additional Macros=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Autodesk\3dsmax\2008 - 64bit\enu\UI\usermacros
Additional Startup Scripts=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Autodesk\3dsmax\2008 - 64bit\enu\scripts\startup
Temp=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Autodesk\3dsmax\2008 - 64bit\enu\temp
Additional Icons=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Autodesk\3dsmax\2008 - 64bit\enu\UI\usericons
MaxData=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Autodesk\3dsmax\2008 - 64bit\enu\
Downloads=.\RES
BitmapProxies=.\MAPS\PROXIES
InstallPath=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\
Standard MAX plug-ins=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\stdplugs
[InstalledComponents]
ArchitecturalMaterials=1
AdditionalMaterials=1
[BitmapDirs]
Dir1=.\MAPS
[Renderer]
DontShowMissingUVWarning=0
UseEnvironAlpha=0
FilterBackground=0
R25Shadows=0
[Performance]
UnitType=5
UnitScale=1
UnitDispType=0
UnitDispMetricType=2
UnitDispUSType=4
UnitDispUSFraction=6
USDefaultUnit=0
UnitDispCustomName=FL
UnitDispCustomValue=660.000000
UnitDispCustomUnit=1
LightingSystem=0
TransformGizmoRestoreAxis=0
SFMask=1
RealTimePlayback=1
PlayActiveOnly=1
CrossHairCursor=0
UseOrbit=0
TopoMessage=0
HorizTextButtons=1
FixedWidthTextButtons=1
TextButtonWidth=70
LargeButtons=1
SpinnerWrap=0
UndoLevels=40
AutoPlayPreview=1
AutoCross=0
AutoCrossDir=0
PaintSelBrushSize=20
AutoIncrement=0
ArchiveProgram=maxzip
AutoBackFile=AutoBackup
ABNFiles=5
ABInterval=5.000000
AutoBackup=1
Backup=1
ReloadTextures=1
WriteCompressed=0
PreserveSchematicView=1
SaveFileProperties=1
DisplayObsoleteMsg=1
GridNudge=1.000000
ZoomAboutMouse=1
ZoomAboutMousePersp=1
ZoomWheelMultiplier=1.000000
VisEdgeMethod=1
LinkLines=0
AutoDPlanes=0
BkgUpdateOnPlay=0
NonScaleObjSize=1.000000
VertexDots=1
VertexDotType=0
HandleBoxType=1
GhostFrames=5
GhostIncr=1
GhostWire=1
GhostType=1
RotUseSelSet=2
Thumbnails=1
LockUILayout=1
RAMPlayerFrameRate=30.000000
RAMPlayerMemUsage=4096
RAMPlayerShowExitDlg=1
[PlugInKeys]
Enabled=0
[CommandPanel]
Columns=1
RollupBreakThreshold=50
[Modstack]
Visible=0
ModStackHeight=269
ShowAllIcons=0
ShowAllSets=0
[WindowState]
GFXType=Direct3D
GFXRenderer=
GFXDevice=
GFXDirect3DVersion=9.0
GFXDirect3DDevice=Hardware
GFXDirect3DBuild=Release
Size=800 600
Place=220 220
Maximized=1
XfmTypeInPos=417 161
SaveUIonExit=1
[RenderPresetsMruFiles]
RenderPresetsMruFile1=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\renderpresets\3dsmax.scanline.no.advanced.lighting.draft.rps
RenderPresetsMruFile2=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\renderpresets\3dsmax.scanline.no.advanced.lighting.high.rps
RenderPresetsMruFile3=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\renderpresets\3dsmax.scanline.radiosity.draft.rps
RenderPresetsMruFile4=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\renderpresets\3dsmax.scanline.radiosity.high.rps
RenderPresetsMruFile5=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\renderpresets\mental.ray.daylighting.draft.rps
RenderPresetsMruFile6=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\renderpresets\mental.ray.daylighting.high.rps
RenderPresetsMruFile7=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\renderpresets\mental.ray.hidden.line.contours.rps
RenderPresetsMruFile8=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\renderpresets\mental.ray.no.gi.draft.rps
RenderPresetsMruFile9=C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2008\renderpresets\mental.ray.no.gi.high.rps
[WelcomeScreen]
ShowAtStartup=false
[DialogResizer_SizeAndPositions]
MXSDebugFloater=468 423 772 617 1
SelectObjectsDialog=761 357 1159 842 1
MoreUtilsDialog=816 373 1103 827 1
[InstanceMgr]
DisplayMSOMtlPropagationMsg=1
[ObjectSnapSettings]
DisplaySnapMarkers=1
SnapMarkerSize=20
SnapMarkerColor=0.000000 1.000000 1.000000
UseAxisConstraints=0
SnapToFrozen=0
DisplayRubberBand=1
SnapPreviewRadius=30
SnapRadius=20
UseTMAxisCenterAsDefaultStartSnapPoint=0
[6d803b31,4e9b5819]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
[62f565d6,110a1f97]
ObjectSnapPluginState=1 0
[24960fd5,343a4913]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[1f120de7,30bc716f]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[52256183,106b5fda]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0 0 0 0 0
[MAXHistoryList]
Count=7
History_00=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\MAX
History_01=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\BAK
History_02=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\RENDER2_ROAD_TEST
History_03=z:_projects804_independence\render
History_04=\\quad\files_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\RENDER2_ROAD_TEST
History_05=\\quad\files_projects804_independence\render1_tree_pflow
History_06=\\quad\files_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\MAPS
[FileList]
File1=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\MAX804_LAND_28.max
MaxFiles=9
File2=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\BAK804_LAND_27_recover.max
File3=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\MAX804_LAND_27.max
File4=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\BAK804_LAND_26_recover.max
File5=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\MAX804_LAND_26.max
File6=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\BAK804_LAND_25_recover.max
File7=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\MAX804_LAND_25.max
File8=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\MAX804_LAND_24.max
File9=Z:_PROJECTS804_INDEPENDENCE\MAX804_LAND_23.max
[Smoke Params]
Size_Meters=1.016000
Size_Inches=40.000000
[MtlEditorPosition]
MainWindow=1291 133 367 820
OptionsWindow=23 267 333 581
[PresetOutputSize0]
PresetWidth=320
PresetHeight=240
PresetAspect=1.000000
[PresetOutputSize1]
PresetWidth=256
PresetHeight=243
PresetAspect=1.265625
[PresetOutputSize2]
PresetWidth=512
PresetHeight=486
PresetAspect=1.265625
[PresetOutputSize3]
PresetWidth=640
PresetHeight=480
PresetAspect=1.000000
[PresetOutputSize4]
PresetWidth=720
PresetHeight=486
PresetAspect=0.900000
[PresetOutputSize5]
PresetWidth=800
PresetHeight=600
PresetAspect=1.000000
[EmailNotifications]
NotifyProgress=0
NotifyFailure=1
NotifyCompletion=0
NotifyEveryNth=1
EmailFrom=
EmailTo=
OutgoingEmailServer=
[RenderProgressDialogPosition]
Dimension=897 79 379 244
[RenderDialogPosition]
Dimension=23 55 456 1029
[MaterialBrowserDialogPosition]
ModalDimension=474 75 586 690
Dimension=584 64 403 823
Maximized=0
[MaterialBrowser]
Show=24
[SpinnerPrecision]
SpinnerSnap=1.000000
SpinnerDecimals=3
UseSnap=0
[VertexNormals]
UseLegacyR4VertexNormals=0
[LAYER]
LayerPropagate=-1
[Paths]
ResolveUNCPathsForMappedDrives=0
ResolveToRelative=0
[File Import]
Zoom Extents=1
[Log File Maintenance]
Log Type=15
Log File Longevity Type=2
Number of Days=30
Log File Size=256
[RIghtClickMenu]
SelectedOnly=0
[ImageFilePicker]
EnablePreview=1
SequenceFlag=0
MaxHistory=16
[EnvironmentDialogPosition]
Dimension=154 460 348 580
[Marble Params]
Size_Meters=1.778000
Size_Inches=70.000000
patrick.reformstudios.com
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It would have been easier to zip it and attach it :P
I’ll certainly have a play, but not tonight - visitors shortly, and food \o/
Max 4.2 through 2013.
XP-64 (SP2)
NVidia 9800GTX-512 (Driver 266.58).
Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz, 8Gb Ram, DX9.0c.
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Heh, sorry… I thought it would be easier to copy and paste into the thread :)
I think the main point of interest are these lines :-
[ObjectSnapSettings]
DisplaySnapMarkers=1
SnapMarkerSize=20
SnapMarkerColor=0.000000 1.000000 1.000000
UseAxisConstraints=0
SnapToFrozen=0
DisplayRubberBand=1
SnapPreviewRadius=30
SnapRadius=20
UseTMAxisCenterAsDefaultStartSnapPoint=0
[6d803b31,4e9b5819]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
[62f565d6,110a1f97]
ObjectSnapPluginState=1 0
[24960fd5,343a4913]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[1f120de7,30bc716f]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[52256183,106b5fda]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0 0 0 0 0
There are some changes between my ini, and the default max ini, but it may be due to me just changing some basic snap parameters… I’m not sure what all the strange “objectSnapPluginState” codes are for.
patrick.reformstudios.com
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This is what mine look like:
[ObjectSnapSettings]
DisplaySnapMarkers=1
SnapMarkerSize=10
SnapMarkerColor=0.000000 1.000000 1.000000
UseAxisConstraints=0
SnapToFrozen=1
DisplayRubberBand=1
SnapPreviewRadius=10
SnapRadius=5
UseTMAxisCenterAsDefaultStartSnapPoint=0
[6d803b31,4e9b5819]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
[62f565d6,110a1f97]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[24960fd5,343a4913]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[1f120de7,30bc716f]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[52256183,106b5fda]
ObjectSnapPluginState=1 1 0 1 0 0
Maneswar Cheemalapati [FA]
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And for good measure here’s mine.
[ObjectSnapSettings]
DisplaySnapMarkers=1
SnapMarkerSize=20
SnapMarkerColor=0.000000 1.000000 1.000000
UseAxisConstraints=0
SnapToFrozen=0
DisplayRubberBand=1
SnapPreviewRadius=30
SnapRadius=20
UseTMAxisCenterAsDefaultStartSnapPoint=0
[6d803b31,4e9b5819]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
[62f565d6,110a1f97]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[24960fd5,343a4913]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[1f120de7,30bc716f]
ObjectSnapPluginState=0 0
[52256183,106b5fda]
ObjectSnapPluginState=1 0 0 0 0 0
Comparing all 3 side-by-side doesn’t really show up anything obvious and there’s no easy way (for some of those) to tie them to GUI options.
I also compared your full file to mine - there are a lot of differences as you would expect, but nothing stands out.
Max 4.2 through 2013.
XP-64 (SP2)
NVidia 9800GTX-512 (Driver 266.58).
Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz, 8Gb Ram, DX9.0c.
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Reduce your snap radius and preview and marker size people… the defaults are huge. Unless you like being snapped around all the time. :)
Maneswar Cheemalapati [FA]
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