2011 is not supported as far as I’m aware, but it works fine in BootCamp and performs well .

2012, no idea (yet) .

Sadly he wants a lappy :(

I know he is “leaning” that way but I am trying to “straiten” him out… i.e. remove the temptation to go to the dark side...lol

From his original post I suspect he is beyond redemption ;)

Looks like you were correct again from his post below...he just doesn’t get it...Macs are not as good as the iPhone. There is a reason Apple “invented” the iPod and iPhone…
But to answer his question, yes it can be done. Would you get more of a “bang for your buck” to go with a PC? VERY MUCH SO, if like I said to begin with, YOU spec it out and don’t buy off the shelf.

@Companioncube,

there are some features in the MacBook Pro that do deem it to be such, hence what you’re paying additional for .

My MacBook Pro has an nvidia card and I’m glad I bought it before the refresh where Apple decided to move to AMD, somewhat of a mistake in my book . As for Mac Pro workstations, something that you would probably want to invest in for serious heavy lifting, you can pull out the AMD rubbish and put in an nvidia card instead, though admittedly the number of supported cards isn’t as high but that is simply a driver problem . There are reasons that they are preferred workstations and why applications such as Smoke are starting to appear on that platform and not on PC .

Yes, they are a *lot* more money, but if you look at it in terms of investment and how long a system like that will last you they are worth it . I’ll compound that by saying that I have a second generation iMac DV, the one with the CRT display before it started to look like it was in a collision with a wall (eMac) and the “iLamp” and it still works perfectly only that all current generation production software has now massively outgrown it . Moral of the story, if you want a system that is extremely robust and will last you for a *very* long time, a Mac is worth it .

As for Bootcamp, this is simply a partition on the Mac HDD that allows you to install Windows . It is not emulated in any way and was made possible because of the move to Intel architecture from Power PC . The only major difference is that Windows will need specific drivers for the Mac hardware, most of which Apple provides on the OSX install disc . 3dsmax runs exactly the same as it would on a normal PC box, as with anything else you wish to install . I have done so on my 13” MacBook Pro and it performs very well .

Final Cut Pro (my video editing app of choice) in OSX runs beautifully fast and robust (not a single crash in over a months constant use) .

Sadly, 3dsmax is now really the only application that shackles me to PC . I hate that .

@ nirokugraphic,
My original PC, from 1982, still runs “perfectly” too, with the programs written for it (dos) what does that have to do with any argument? I don’t think it is realistic for that kind of statement to be factored in to the decision unless to say that you can pay more up front so you can’t afford to upgrade it when you should, but no worries because you like 3D Studio Max 4 better anyway...lol

@doughboy

They made them to not break down after a year or two back then unlike how they do now :) While you may not agree with that argument it is still food for thought to some degree .

3D Studio Max 4 ? Actually I liked that release and was disappointed they didn’t commit to the discreet naming scheme and didn’t call it Magma .

Who would have guessed...lol

Firstly - lighten up a bit. If you re-read those comments they are clearly tongue-in-cheek and not intended to be taken literally (note the “wink” smiley).
Secondly, Apple hardware has historically been overpriced and under powered with far too much emphasis on how “cool” they look. Maybe they are getting better, I wouldn’t know and have no intention of finding out. Their “lock in” mentality (think iTunes/iStore for their phones) doesn’t just push them down the list it removes them entirely (for me anyway). And before you throw Microsoft at me, yes - they are as bad in some ways but at least they don’t make the hardware as well.
Finally, laptops are also over priced and under powered so a double whammy when considering Apple, but if that’s what you want/need then that’s your choice - it’s your money after all - but don’t complain when folks point out the obvious pitfalls of making such a descision. You asked the question - don’t be surprised when you get answers you may not want to hear.

I completely agree with you Jim, as a fellow Todd - forums including this one seem to be full of snide, arrogant and condescending people . We’re all in this creative field together, there is zero excuse to be anything but respectful and helpful to our peers - I expect this and I give it, knowing full well that we don’t all live in a fairy wonderland with rainbows and unicorns . Tongue and cheek has no place here to me .

The more we help each other and give, the more we grow and get back .

As for the hardware debate, stop it . People seem to be vehemently anti-Apple for little real quantifiable reason and the main argument I hear is that they’re not “open enough” . We’re visually creative people, we don’t need to spend upwards of 25% of the time dealing with hardware and driver issues, we expect our tools to work . We’re not sys-admins !

PCs are great, I’ve spent all my life around them in one form or another but I’m tired of Windows and have been *very* impressed with the hardware and software performance of Apple stuff (which immediately negates the price which is the other major down point) .

I am not about to sit here and debate and explain why a PC is better than a Mac and vice versa because ultimately it’s the same argument about whether 3dsmax is better than Maya, if Photoshop is better than Gimp etc etc . It goes on and on and has no end .

Work with what you want . It is not your, my or anyone else’s place to deride and snipe at people who want to move to and use something they will be more comfortable with . At the end of the day, it’s all about getting work done, that is *all* that matters, right ?

First and foremost, “lighten up Frances.” (edit)
Second, as I said you asked about laptops, I assumed you wanted answers about LAPTOPS, how can I be at blame when you, the OP, misunderstand a reply about LAPTOPS to think because I said PC to mean WORKSTATIONS? Give me a break. If you are that sensitive about what you read on here, one thanks for NOT posting very often, and two maybe you deserve to buy an Apple.
Third, I do think Apple products ARE VERY GOOD, I have an iPhone 4 and had an iPhone 3GS…I love them. Are they overpriced? Of course they are. Do I care? NO. Does that mean I would by a MacBook? Absolutely not. I don’t mind buying an up to date pc every 2 years for half the price of a MacBook every 3 years. And before you tell me they last longer than that, I DON’T WANT MY HARDWARE THAT OLD AND SLOW.
Fourth, say what you want about your “luck” with the various laptops but I had a Dell Precision 6300 for 3 years, even dropped it twice, and put thousands of air miles on it. It is still kicking but IT felt the need to “upgrade” it and that is the only reason I don’t still have it. It was a work horse and I would recommend that or a similar platform for anyone wanting to do MAX on the road.
Side remark one: The reason the MAC vs. PC argument is so violent is because PC people are jealous and can’t afford or don’t want to spend that much on their hardware…lol If you have the money to spend by all means, go get the Mac. (That way you can look cool at the coffee shop too. Ok that part is unfair, but is one of the reasons to get one…IMHO)
Side remark: I too thought you were not past the point of no return, hence my first response to your question, that you and others took to mean I was talking about WORKSTATIONS…your bad.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programing…for some that is literal.

The “lol” wasn’t meant to “excuse all.” it was in reference to the “dark side” part...as in I was joking about it being the dark side. I guess you came here with one question (does Mac run on a Mac?) and ended up defending why you wanted to get a Mac. Sorry you think we all should all agree with you but most people take budget into account when making a purchase of this size. If you can’t understand that or don’t want to, don’t make me out to be the bad guy. After all most of this started when you went into your rant about a PC implying a workstation.
Have fun with your new portable Mac, and I am sure it will compute light year around anything I can afford.