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  • Trist
  • Posted: 10 October 2011 12:18 AM
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Hey eveyone,

I am looking to upgrade my graphics card for work in 3ds Max 2012 and some 2D and stereoscopic video editing/compositing. 

I have my heart set on the NVIDIA GTX 590 3GB gaming card so I can play 3D games and still have an awesome card for my design work.

Just looking for advice from anyone who uses high end gaming cards for use in 3ds Max 2012 - do you think this card will be effective for the nitrous viewport system and simulations etc that take advantage of advanced PhysX and CUDA?

I understand that Max uses DirectX and the GTX 590 is meant to be the fastest DX11 card around so in theory it sounds great for the job.  It would certainly be an improvement from my old GTX 285.

Thanks in advance for any help whatsoever!



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  • Trist
  • Posted: 10 October 2011 05:37 PM

I have done some more research and found that the GTX 590 generates alot of heat and it’s overpriced for what it is.  I will probably go with the GTX 580 3GB.

I am just waiting on confirmation that the 3GB of VRAM in this card with be utilized within 3ds Max 2012.

Please if you have any information or experience that may help, let me know.

Thanks in advance.



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  • Trist
  • Posted: 10 October 2011 05:54 PM

Ok, so I took the intiative and looked on the Autodesk 3ds Max certified hardware page. 

Although the GTX 580 is not on the “Certified” list, it still checked all of the boxes when it came to Nitrous and IRay etc - all of the important stuff.

I know a Quadro would be better for 3D Design but I want to play games too.

If im missing something let me know.

Otherwise, I will be ordering the GTX 580 very soon.



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  • Pete
  • Posted: 10 October 2011 07:59 PM

I have the GTX580 1.5GB on my home workstation. It works very well for max with nitrous. Im working on scenes with 10M+ polys with no problems. The only time it gets noisy is when im gaming.

I dont use Iray so cant comment on that but im very happy with max/AE performance.

If you have any specific questions please ask.



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  • Trist
  • Posted: 10 October 2011 09:52 PM

Thanks, Pete

I guess my question is will Max use all of the 3GB VRAM on the GTX 580 I am looking at buying?

I assume yes as the Max certified Quadro cards listed go up to 4GB VRAM.

I appreciate your help.

Will probably order the card tonight unless someone recommends otherwise.



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  • Trist
  • Posted: 11 October 2011 05:15 AM

I am now 90% sure that Max 2012 will use as much VRAM as you can throw at it. 

Ironically, the GTX 590 may not perform as well as the cheaper GTX 580 3GB in Max as it is essentially two under-clocked 1.5 GB 580’s SLI’d in one card so this means Max will only recognize 1.5 GBs of its VRAM.  On the other hand, the GTX 580 has all of it’s 3GB of VRAM on the one card so Max can use all of it (in theory)

If anyone here thinks I am incorrect in my findings please let me know.

I will get the 580 3GB soon so I will post any issues if I experience them.

I hope this helps anyone who may be considering a gaming card for 3D design.



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Don’t get a “2 in one” card. Renderers like iray need the memory in one place so a large scene can fit onto the card. 2 * 1.5GB cards have less available than a single 2GB or 3GB card.



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  • Trist
  • Posted: 11 October 2011 01:30 PM

Thanks for confirming, Steve.



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I can’t say for sure as I don’t have the card just yet, but from what I have read I think it would not be a good idea to use a high end gaming card for prolonged IRAY rendering.  The GTX 580 and 590 get very hot I have heard. 

This won’t be a problem for me as I do my final renders in MR that isn’t GPU accelerated (I think) and I want the new card mainly to increase my responsiveness in the viewports.

Water cooling etc would be a good idea if you want to IRAY your scene for a prolonged period of time.

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Replied: 11 October 2011 01:43 PM  
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  • Trist
  • Posted: 18 November 2011 11:05 PM

Just to resolve the issue of the thread, I finally recieved my EVGA GTX 580 3GB and installed it last night and can say I am very happy with it’s peformance in Max 2012. 

A character containing around 15m polygons rendered in about a minute using IRAY.  Of course this is without any SSS effect but still pretty impressive, right?

Wouldn’t it be awesome if mental images incorporated GPU acceleration into metal ray?...but that’s probably a question for another thread.

Anyway I would definately recommend a high end NVIDIA GeForce card for Max 2012 as an alternative to the more expensive Quadros.

It’s great with nitrous and GPU rendering...and games too (if you are so inclined)

If anyone has any questions I would be happy to help.



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Hi Trist!
Tomorrow i have to choose Quadro 4000 2GB or GTX 580 3Gb… veeery hard decision.
I`m using 3Ds Max with V-Ray 2.0 and V-ray RT GPU (similar to iray - but using only cpu or gpu), Maya, AutoCAD 2D and 3D, Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator… etc.
The main problem for me is - what is the maximum of polygons with you can have not very slow view-port performance (workable)… can you work fine with 40-50-60m or even more polygons?
My scenes are minimum 10m and they are workable with Quadro FX 1800 768MB
Sorry for my English - and hope you see this before it`s too late for me :DDD

Author: Adrio999

Replied: 27 November 2011 02:31 AM  
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@ Adrio999

:) Hello, How did it go? - did you get a GTX?

I’m exploring my options for a new GPU too. For me performance in Max is essential, but also in the other programs such as AutoCAD, and Adobe CS5 etc.



3ds Max 2012 x64
Dell Precision M6500
Quadro FX 2800M
Intel Core i7 Q840 @ 1.87GHz
8GB RAM
Windows 7 64bit

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@ Tomas Esperanza

There is some delay… tomorrow I will go to the store, and hope in week or two to be delivered here :) Then I will make some tests and post them here :)

Yet I`m searching for more clear results with Quadro 4000… they say it is up to 3 times more powerful in some tasks, but in other is less or equal with GTX 580 - I`m only interested in polygon count, because of the really big scenes that I made, but nobody gave me real info about Quadro - only for GTX 580 here - http://area.autodesk.com/for...r-gtx-580-3gb-please-help - and if I can`t find more info, I will by GTX.

Author: Adrio999

Replied: 29 November 2011 01:28 AM