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  • Kunal
  • Posted: 18 June 2011 01:01 AM
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I am to purchase following major components for a new system within my budget for now. Kindly suggest on your own experience for any problems with 3dsmax(mainly viewport performance).

Nature of work - 3d modeling and rendering for arch and product previz + zbrush character sculpting
Softwares to run - 3dsmax2009 or 2012 , Silo, Zbrush4, PhotoshopCS5 or GIMP, After EffectsCS5

Processor- i7 2600k
Motherboard- Asus P8Z68V
Memory- Corsair DD3 16 GB
Cabinet- Cooler master 690
Power Supply- Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 600W
Graphics card- GTX 560 ti
OS- Win 7 Professional x64
Monitor- 1280*1024 ( reusing from my old system for now)
HDD- 2 X WD Caviar Black 1 TB SATA Hard Drives 6GB/s (WD1002FAEX)

Another option for 560ti is quadroFX 600 for nearly the same price . Higher series are costly for now but i can consider fx600(1 GB) just for 3dsmax if 560ti is not stable with graphite interface and lags in viewport (this i really want to avoid). If both are not upto mark...only then i might consider gtx480.

I am not sure if 600W will be good enough if i add an extra 560ti in future. It might make iray to be of some use for product renderings.

Also suggest me some rough values for UPS to look for as i have no idea about it. 600vA, 1000vA?

Thanks



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pretty much same set up as me. all you might want to think about is using a SSD drive for your system drive, example the newish OCZ vertex 3 (120gb). also if your really want to be using iray at a later date you really need a graphics card with 2Gb of video memory. after trying iray a few times with my 1GB 560ti it really can’t render that many polys even at 720p. so get a 2GB 560ti.



3Ds Max 2012+Sp2 +SAP, Vray 2.2, Photoshop CS5.1
OS - Windows 7 Pro x64 Sp1
sys1: i7 2600k (OC to 4.2GHz), 16GB 1600mhz DDR3 Ram, MSI GTX 580 (3GB) (295.51), OCZ vertex 2 120GB SSD, Wacom Intuos 3
sys2: i7 2600k (OC to 4.2GHz), 16GB 1600mhz DDR3 Ram, MSI GTX 560 (1GB) (295.51), wacom bamboo

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  • Kunal
  • Posted: 19 June 2011 08:32 AM

So for viewport performance, is your 560 doing well? No stuttering/lag while orbiting or while using graphite tools? That is what I’m most concerned about

I’ll see for 2GB but I wonder if an extra 560ti 1GB added later on in pair might help iray more or less than just one 560 ti 2GB. I hope 600-650 w psu is fine for such a rig

I’m not sure of buying an SSD as I’ve seen different opinions on any major benefits gained while using 3d apps. If possible, can you share what major differences you felt in your work before/after SSD drive.

Thanks for the reply.



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  • Kunal
  • Posted: 20 June 2011 03:58 AM

Just one more query i got now after more reading…

when using a Z68 board (for SSD caching ), and i7-2600k---

If required can integrated i7 HD graphics(with lucid virtu) can be completely disabled for dedicated graphics or it’ll always work in layers



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  • INCUBOX
  • Posted: 21 June 2011 06:09 AM

Kunal 18 June 2011 08:01 AM


Processor- i7 2600k
Motherboard- Asus P8Z68V
Memory- Corsair DD3 16 GB
Cabinet- Cooler master 690
Power Supply- Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 600W
Graphics card- GTX 560 ti
OS- Win 7 Professional x64
Monitor- 1280*1024 ( reusing from my old system for now)
HDD- 2 X WD Caviar Black 1 TB SATA Hard Drives 6GB/s (WD1002FAEX)

--CPU--
i7 2600k is a good choice. Yes, the i9XX series may have a bit of advantage on rendering but for the price, forget it.

--MoBo--
P8Z68V is a good one. But I’d avoid SSD caching for stability/reliability issues. As a standard rule for your working environment: Always try to minimize risk. Having SSD caching requires more components involved in the action and then, you will have at least 2 elements prone to fail anytime instead of one. It would be faster of course, but there is that bit of higher risk. I’d go with a single 120+ GB SSD for the Operating System and Programs.
Maybe you’d be tempted to forget Z68 and go P67 because possibly you won’t be making use of all Z68’s features but please, steer clear from P67 for now. Too many random issues and power loop startup problems.
Also, use Overclocking sparingly.. ;-)

--GPU--
When it comes to making a choice for multiple software platform but mostly rendering and 3DS Max on a budget, one has to forget two things: The Quadro line and anything that’s not Nvidia.
Keep in mind that for 3DS Max the rendering is, to this day, handled by the CPU and System Memory while the GPU carries on the viewport display. In this case, ANY model that will “consume” 1GB of GPU memory on the display won’t discriminate if it’s a Quadro or GeForce or Tarzan’s mother in law. And if for some reason you get a model that eats up 2GB of GPU memory, the same principle applies, but to keep you on the safe track, 2GB is definitely a big plus. I’d go with the GTX 560ti 2GB GPU.

--PSU--
Spare no expense on the quality for this item. See if you can get an 80 Plus (at least bronze) and raise power to at least 650 watts for the possible expansion of second GPU.
The difference between standard, 80+, 80+ Bronze, ...Gold and others is finally your Electric consumption and bill. If you put a PSU to work at it’s top efficiency or more, it will draw more from the outlet. Browse for “PSU calculator” online and you will find some interactive pages on which you can input your configuration and it will advise you on the total wattage you may need.

Notes:
You didn’t mention the type of memory.. check if it’s possible to go with 1600 if you are quite familiar with Overclocking and plan to do so.
Keep your case cool and your CPU cooler.
If you finally choose to go with the 2GB GTX 560ti, check a dual fan model. (don’t know if there are single fan models TBH)
Finally, go with a case that has REAL dust filters that are washable like the nylon/plastic mesh ones. For some particular reason, I hate foam cheapo dust collectors. Cooler Master cases are great but there’s that tiny spot right there, where it hurts.

Good Luck!



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  • Kunal
  • Posted: 26 June 2011 08:12 AM

I’m checking late but thanks a lot for the explanation. It really helped.
Meanwhile I also did some online research

I’ll be putting parts in next few days and will go for following

Gigabyte z68x UD3H-B3( very good reviews and a little cheaper than asus pro-v)

No RAID or ssd for now. ( as i hope i’ll be modeling/rendering most of the time within software)

560ti msi twin frozr 1 GB. I’m still looking for a good 2GB 560ti review. Right now zotac or palit are avialable which are not recommended brands over asus/msi… as told to me.

coolermaster GX750w PSU and cooler master 690II case. Will look into 80+ prices and availability

Thanks again for all the information



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