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  • qholmes
  • Posted: 27 July 2010 06:03 PM
  • Location: Ontario Canada
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Is there a trick to getting the email alerts to work?

I edited the settings of a currently running job to send me an alert to my phone so i could go and get some sleep…

But it doesnt seem to be doing anything.

Cant really find much on what i am supposed to specify for a smtp server

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On our network, it works if I give it the IP address of the local Microsoft Exchange server, but only if the user specified in the “from” address has sufficient rights. If you don’t have a mail server on your network it might be more difficult.



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  • qholmes
  • Posted: 28 July 2010 08:15 AM

Right so i just have a home office kind of set up. So no fancy mail servers.

Does anyone know if you have to have a mail server for this to work?

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Small 5 machine render farm of mixed machines.
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Yes you do have to have a mail server. However, SMTP servers are pretty simple and I’m sure you’d be able to find a freeware one you can run on whatever computer you’re using. Googling for “freeware SMTP” gives plenty of useful-looking links. The only problem might be whether your email provider will accept messages from your server.



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Hmmm - interesting. I just tried by specifying the IP address of a mail server to which I have (a great deal of) access. Max certainly used the address and the to/from addresses I keyed in, problem is a) there’s no way to enter a (mail server) username an password (which are required for most smtp servers) and b) it used my PC name which of course isn’t a valid (correctly formatted) domain name.

Suitably “munged” to protect the innocent (i.e. me), the following is what was reported in the server logs.

Jul 28 20:35:42 <servernamepostfix/smtpd[19591]connect from <some_stuff_here>.com[My IP here]
Jul 28 20
:35:43 <servernamepostfix/smtpd[19591]NOQUEUErejectRCPT from <some_stuff_here>.com[My IP here]504 5.5.2 <My PC name>: Helo command rejectedneed fully-qualified hostnamefrom=<a valid addressto=<an equally validbut differentaddressproto=ESMTP helo=<My PC name>
Jul 28 20:35:43 <servernamepostfix/smtpd[19591]lost connection after RCPT from <some_stuff_here>.com[My IP here]
Jul 28 20
:35:43 <servernamepostfix/smtpd[19591]disconnect from <some_stuff_here>.com[My IP here]

So it really will try to use a normal smtp server, but with the lack of login details and incorrect responses to the HELO it’s never going to work.
It should work if you have a local server, though I’ve had fun trying to get similar things to work in the past. Woked if I used a proper email client, but trying to script an email (PHP) It failed.

You could try Mercury mail - http://www.pmail.com - I’ve had some success with that in that past, and it runs on windows ;)



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  • qholmes
  • Posted: 28 July 2010 09:43 AM

so for the simple guy it might not be worth the trouble....

i have a server guy friend who hosts my mail. will see if he thinks i can use my server.

but like what you found out with no log on info..

doing the one handed typing with my boy on my lap hence my simplified answer

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Intel i7 920 with 6 gig Ram. 64 bit Win7. Max 2009 and Max 2011
Small 5 machine render farm of mixed machines.
More coffee please!  :-)

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What? He can’t take dictation yet? :P

Local servers can be configured to send mail from any (local network) source. The server I tried is a real mailserver hosted on a privately owned Linux system. Many of us use it in much the same way as many use the mail servers provided by their ISP. Obviously the username and password requirement is mandatory these days to prevent spam being sent and the server IP being blacklisted.

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  • qholmes
  • Posted: 29 July 2010 05:53 AM

Yes you would think that a 2 year old could do more around the house… I mean come on…

Well i dont know the ins and outs of mail servers myself but i am currently working with my buddy who is a software developer and we are building a utility to allow the Max email alerts to work relatively easily on anyones computer.

Will see how it turns out.

So you use a third party mail server to do it? And i reading that correctly or you have your own private server?

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Intel i7 920 with 6 gig Ram. 64 bit Win7. Max 2009 and Max 2011
Small 5 machine render farm of mixed machines.
More coffee please!  :-)

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Nono - I don’t use email alerts, but I do know a little (very little) bit about email systems. I tried sending via that specific server because I have sufficient access to it to let me get at the raw logs. It’s not mine, I’m just an admin (well ok, one of THE admins ;) ).

What I was thinking was for you to have a local mailserver on a spare old PC. Your workstation could send the mail to you as a local user - that part never needs to see the internet as such, just the LAN (intranet). It could also be configured to allow you read the mail from anywhere like you would with any mail system - it’s all about configuration, allowing certain protocols to be “public” but requiring logins (to read the mail), but no such requirement for mail sent TO a local user FROM a specific local IP. Done that way you wouldn’t need any mods to Max.
I do have Mercury installed, but the HDD it’s on isn’t in the PC - if I have time I’ll have a play over the weekend.

Author: Steve_Curley

Replied: 29 July 2010 07:43 AM  
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  • qholmes
  • Posted: 29 July 2010 07:31 AM

So i think we have a working solution to let people use any server they want like their normal email server that they already have. I have tried it on my work server and now i will try it on my home email server as well.

Anyone want to donate to this cause? We might set it up as a cheap buy or a shareware type thing with donate option.

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Intel i7 920 with 6 gig Ram. 64 bit Win7. Max 2009 and Max 2011
Small 5 machine render farm of mixed machines.
More coffee please!  :-)

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Has anyone actually tried running a simple freeware SMTP server on the same machine they’re using for 3ds Max? I’m sure I’ve had something like that running in the past and it really wasn’t difficult at all. Unfortunately I can’t try it here though.



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