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  • berky93
  • Posted: 19 March 2010 05:06 PM
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I am creating a mushroom cloud, following the tutorial here: http://www.the123d.com/tutorial/3dsmax3/explode02.shtml However, I have run into a problem. Instead of the blend maps blending the 3 explosion materials correctly, the grey material covers the entire object and there are tiny traces of the other colors where the dark red color is on it. I have checked my UVW mapping and it is mapped correctly (the gradients appear correct when I activate them in the viewport, but they render as pitch black) and each map is set to a different id. Any ideas how to fix this?



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I’m not sure what is going on with your scene, but I would suspect it may be a units related issue.  Can you zip and upload your scene here so we can see it?



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  • berky93
  • Posted: 20 March 2010 06:39 AM

sure, here it is.



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Your Gradient Ramp using the Radial type is currently set to Map Channel 2, and should be channel 1.  But for some reason, the gradients don’t want to render properly with the Displacement Approx. modifier applied.  If you turn it off, the cloud renders correctly. 

It also renders correct if you disable the Displacement in the materials used in the Blend.  I’m not sure why that would mess with things, to be honest.



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  • berky93
  • Posted: 22 March 2010 04:03 PM

youre right. I’ll have to keep messing around with it. I’ve never actually used the displacement approx. modifier, so I dont really understand it. It definitely has something to do with displacement approx and cellular dispalcement, is there a way to replicate the effects of cellular displacement with a modifier or something? you know, actually change the mesh to be like that?



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There is a Displace modifier that you could plug your Cellular map into.



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  • berky93
  • Posted: 31 March 2010 11:31 AM

yeah I tried that. It didnt quite work. It did create a similar effect, but there were some problems. The displacement map in the texture doesnt appear to rely on the amount of polygons in the object, but the displace modifier does. So areas with less polygons, such as the “stem” of the mushroom cloud, weren’t so much displaced with a cellular map as scaled upwards non-uniformly. That created some weird proportional errors, and a lack of cloud-like detail.

EDIT: I tried applying a turbosmooth with 2 iterations to increase the polygon count before using the displace modifier, but it appears that detail level alone isn’t causing the strange proportions. I think it’s because the uvw map isnt the exact shape of the cloud.



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