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How can i create a functioning toe on the back of a foot as opposed to the front?
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  • Atlas
  • Posted: 21 July 2009 02:57 AM
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recently i have created a character and now i am in the final stages of rigging, the only problem I am having at the moment is his feet. he has 3 toes in the front an one in the back (like a bird talon). my problem is that i cant seem to get the toe in the back to work. I can set up its envelopes perfectly to cover the mesh the way i want but then when i put my character in walk mode the back toe goes to the front of the foot completely messing up the mesh. there has to be a way to keep the back toe in the back can someone help me?



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  • pen
  • Posted: 21 July 2009 06:36 AM

Images of the problem would help a lot as I don’t have a clue how this character is rigged.



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  • Samab
  • Posted: 23 July 2009 01:48 AM

I’m guessing that you are using a Bibed rig. When you make a Footstep walk cycle, the back toe flips to face forward, yes?
Add another animation layer to the bibed, rotate the toe back to where it should be, and set a key to hold it there. It may not animate correctly, bending the right way as the foot rolls on the ground.
Or just have the three front bibed toes, and make some custom bones for the back toe and link them to the bibed foot bone.



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  • Atlas
  • Posted: 23 July 2009 01:43 PM

Hey Penn how do i save a still so i can send you some images of my rig and character to give you a better idea of what I’m talking about?



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  • Samab
  • Posted: 23 July 2009 09:22 PM

To get a screen grab, press the Print Screen key, that copies the screen image to the clipboard. Then patste it into a paint application, crop it if need be, save it.
When writing a post, use the Browse button after attachments, to find the image file.



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  • Atlas
  • Posted: 24 July 2009 04:30 AM

what if I don’t have a print screen key?



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  • Samab
  • Posted: 24 July 2009 04:36 AM

what if I don’t have a print screen key?

It’s usually in the top right area of the keyboard, to the right of F12. It may be labeled “Prt Scn”.



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  • Atlas
  • Posted: 24 July 2009 04:49 AM

I’m using a new macbook laptop (unfortunately) so I have no print screen button



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Ah, not sure how to do a screen grab on a Mac, there must be a way. You could maybe render the scene and save it, bones are usually non-renderable, but you could switch that for this purpose. Or Zip a MAX file and attach it if you don’t mind people downloading it.
BTW, could you confirm the rig type, is it a custom rig, biped, cat rig or other?

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Found it, there is a thing called Grab, found in Applications - Utillities. Open it, choose Capture - Window.

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  • Atlas
  • Posted: 24 July 2009 05:25 AM

Thanks a lot ill try it soon, im leaving for a a day or two so ill get you these images soon. By the way my rig is a biped/custom, its all biped but I had to add a bone or two to get it to work the way i wanted. You’ll see soon enough.



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  • Atlas
  • Posted: 27 July 2009 04:15 AM

The first picture is what the foot skeleton should look like normally, the second pic is when i put him in walk mode...then the back toe moves to the front of the foot for some reason.



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  • Atlas
  • Posted: 27 July 2009 04:18 AM

hold on i cant get the pictures into the thread for some reason…



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