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  • x_dezz
  • Posted: 28 December 2007 01:41 AM

looking great, can really feel the pressure on the fingers
I think you’ve got a very nice level of detail there as well, no need for more



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  • grimoire
  • Posted: 28 December 2007 01:45 AM

Yeah, the hand is well done and has nice character. The wrist looks weird though. Looks very flat with that hollow in the top center. There’s usually a bump at that transition from arm to hand.



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  • iatriki
  • Posted: 28 December 2007 02:14 AM

it has a nice flow to it. there are some small thingies that could be better. you made the skin a bit rubbery...or a bit thick. and you could have made the bump that oddity’s talking about( the bump from the carpian bones). I think that in this particular position the bump wouldn’t be too obvious, but it could give the hand a more dynamic look.



Andrei Cirdu

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salut guys

i’m not sure i get u andreja. i mean i understand what ur saying, but i dont know if you are asking me if i did it on purpose or if it looks that it’s accidental. i didnt intend it to look that way though.
i agree to the rest of the crit you guys gave me. i’m definitely going to put more work into this.

thanks for the good word dezz :)
multumesc for the crits guys :)



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  • JSlotosch
  • Posted: 29 December 2007 04:56 AM

Man, ich absolutely liebe this model, nice feeling behind it.

Regards,
Josef



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‘happy accidents’ are part of painting , yes, when you dab a brush down and it just somehow looks right, but not part of sculpture. Sculpture is a slow, deliberate, precise and heavily planned task, requiring you to constantly think technically. Happy accidents don’t happen. You have to continually work and shape everything to your deliberate will.
To suggest you could somehow subliminally sculpt one arm a lot bigger and more muscular than the other without thinking about, or noticing it, is ridiculous. Either it was a deliberate plan, or it was sloppy.
I don’t like to judge which one of those it was, I like to leave that to the artist to explain.
Critics can make themselves look like serious fools by coming up with pretentious artsy explanations as to why something is the way it is, and then it turns out to be for totally mundane or erroneous reasons.

have you ever seen rodin’s works?  or perhaps prince paul troubetzkoy’s?  they have a very painterly style similar to that of john singer sargent’s.  the process involved in creating these sculptures are no more different than a masterfuly done painting thats loose and expressive.  what may seem like ‘happy accidents’ to you in painting can be as deliberate as any mark can be.  there have been stories of sargent hovering his brush on the canvas for a long ass time aiming at his target like a master sharpshooter.  with a swift stroke, his mark describes so much more than whatever fully rendered sculpted piece can sometimes.  this is the same case with rodin who sculpts in such a painterly manner.  also, take a look at rodin’s proportions...hell, even michaelangelo.  they enhance certain parts of the body as needed in order to communicate whatever emotion they want to get out of the viewer.  by your studies of sculpture, have you ever noticed that sometimes rodin’s proportions do not really abide to perfection?  the david if you look at it outside the worm’s eye view was sculpted top heavy by design to accomodate the vantage point of its viewers. 

the arm which you claim looks bigger feels very naturalistic for me.  when you bend your wrists that way, your flexors bulge up.  the body shifts in volume depending on what state the muscle is in, as i am sure you know.  eventhough it is your own opinion, i find it VERY annoying to read a post from you that imposes what you think things should be like.  i’d actually excuse it if you’re 100% right, but the fact that you are sometimes misinformed does not really jive all that well.

“Sculpture is a slow, deliberate, precise and heavily planned task, requiring you to constantly think technically. Happy accidents don’t happen. You have to continually work and shape everything to your deliberate will.”

um, no.  bottomline is have fucking fun with the art.  if you’re THAT serious about this, then go enroll in some atelier and do some actual clay sculpture...hell, with the attitude you’re projecting here, i’m surprised why you’re not chipping away at some 500 year old marble down your basement sculpting the next david.  are you? because if you are, then that’ll shut me up.  otherwise you really should :)...really should shut up that is.



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I was waiting for you to say something gio



"Some people fight...some people bleed”

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  • grimoire
  • Posted: 29 December 2007 12:32 PM

Pity it wasn’t worth waiting for though…

have you ever seen rodin’s works?  or perhaps prince paul troubetzkoy’s?  they have a very painterly style similar to that of john singer sargent’s.  the process involved in creating these sculptures are no more different than a masterfuly done painting thats loose and expressive.what may seem like ‘happy accidents’ to you in painting can be as deliberate as any mark can be.

We’re not talking about them, we’re talking about the mostly neophyte digital artists in these forums. They obviously don’t have the same experience, knowledge and abilities as the artists you mentioned, and therefore to assume everything they do is fully conscious and intentional would be naive.
If I’m guilty of not giving people enough credit, then you’re equally guilty of giving them too much.
I’m happy to accept that Rodin or Michaelangelo did what they did on a fully intentional and conscious level, but I don’t assume the same of every digital sculpt I see on the internet. There are such things as simple mistakes and oversights you know, you’ll see them quite regularly on these and other forums, including from yourself, and in this case I was correct, he’s already said as much.



"Some people fight...some people bleed”

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Hey I like the hand alot, the skin looks very natural the way it pulls and wrinkles in the right areas… Looking forward to seeing more of this yet I think it even looks complete at this stage.

cheers,

justin



http://www.justin-lloyd.com

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oddity your the funnest guy here...its like your trying to be controversial..I don’t think its fare to people who post their work, kinda messes up the mojo you know...a critique is a critiqued...its like a fact something you can prove....and you opinions....I don’t think its gonna help others out...but I’m sure it will keep on going.



"Some people fight...some people bleed”

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