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  • Mindseye
  • Posted: 08 July 2012 12:54 AM
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That the help file for Smoke 2013 stays separate from premium. It was so confusing learning 2012 and getting thrown into the premium help file. I was sometime reading stuff that had nothing to do with the way it worked in smoke, but just because the word choice I ended up there.

The help file of 2013 is difficult to find stuff.
For instance try to find the Mimic tool that resides under axis. It either not there or I just can’t find it.

I have come across many situation where it is in there, but the help file just wasn’t serving it up.

I wouldn’t mind links to video files explaining the searched topic either. There can sometimes be 1 min video showing the tool and also (very important) the “why”. The why of why this tool exist and what problem it solves.

The why is quite often missed in tutorial. Just the explanation is given on how to access the tool.
You have to bear in mind that for some, these tools represent a whole new vocabulary. So people have to other words or thoughts that they can associate to the reality of the tool. So at times that tool represents the blueprint of understanding.

Also the option for other to make explanation videos for tool to hang into the wiki. So it functions as a wiki suppose to. With also the option to have it rated, so that people can quickly see if a tutorial is worth watching on subject from a certain person. So in that way you have different points of view on one tool. I quite often study one subject with two books or more, it offers perspective. It allows one person to fill in the gaps the other person might ave created.



Jeffrey Levenstone
It isn’t done until it is finished.

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If you think help is bad now you should have seen Autodesk manuals from 10 years or so ago, virtually no images just walls of text that was for the most part dull as bat shit.

The best manual ever written was the CMX 340x manual from Orrox back in 1981, it started with the words ‘We figure by now you’ve heard a lot of nice things about CMX’ and carried on with that tone for the rest of the book. Bob Zelin once told me it was written by a woman called Candy Chestnut. I seriously learnt to edit video reading that book.

The best online help was the original Shake documentation from Nothing Real which was funny and entertaining whilst explaining concepts alongside how to do things.

The best tool yet for learning Smoke is grants work here and the FXPHD fast forward video for $99. Personally I’m not spending too much time on 2013 until it gets feature locked as it has a long way to go yet.

Author: Mikeparsons

Replied: 08 July 2012 03:28 PM  
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Hello mikeparsons,

Before I could afford Smoke I use to read the manuals like the ones from like 6-7 years ago. I couldn’t get my head around what they where explaining. It read as though you had to have learned some of this stuff in another application and that this was the refresher. So yes, I know what you mean.

Author: Mindseye

Replied: 09 July 2012 05:32 AM  
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Hi Jeffrey.

As of Smoke 2013, Smoke and Flame Premium use separate branches in Wikihelp:

--> Smoke
--> Flame Premium

Regards,
Robert.



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Robert Adam
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Thank you Robert. I mentioned this so that it doesn’t get mixed into each other. Because Smoke 2010, 2011 & 2012 use be separate until premium came to the scene. I’m to sure at about 2012, but the rest was.

It is quite inconvenniet to have the two mixed. The wiki is as is not working properly with searches and then to be giving results from other applications is a nightmare.

Where can I find help on mimic in the wiki. The Mimic link that is used in action.

Author: Mindseye

Replied: 09 July 2012 05:00 AM  
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Hi,

It looks like the Smoke 2013 is still incomplete. 

The same function is available in Flame Premium which is called duplicate
http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/Fla..._th2053/2057-Duplicat2057

This will show you how to use MIMIC.

I will notify the docs team to add it into the wiki.

Regards
Grant

Author: Ultimate_Smoker*

Replied: 09 July 2012 05:35 AM  
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Thank you Grant.

Author: Mindseye

Replied: 09 July 2012 06:33 AM  
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Grant the help file is asking me to login. This should just be an open document.

Author: Mindseye

Replied: 09 July 2012 06:34 AM  
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Hi,

You shouldn’t need to log in.  It is open to the public. 

I didn’t log in and I went here http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/Smoke/enu/2013/Help/User_Guide

This should be fine.

Regards
Grant

Author: Ultimate_Smoker*

Replied: 12 July 2012 10:14 PM  
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Hello Grant,

I meant the link where you told me to look at the mimic tool, is asking me to login. It says I don’t have the permission.
http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/Fla..._th2053/2057-Duplicat2057

Author: Mindseye

Replied: 12 July 2012 10:55 PM  
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Looks like the area posting shortened the link…

Try this - http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/Fla..._th2053/2057-Duplicat2057

Author: Ultimate_Smoker*

Replied: 12 July 2012 11:26 PM  
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Ok thanks for the re-post, this one worked.

Author: Mindseye

Replied: 13 July 2012 02:27 AM  
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hi
i really HOPE, that the release will automatically install the local help file - or at least give you the option during installation. - the wiki page is terribly slow & i´m not always online!
i know, there is a link somewhere, where you can find the downloads - but thats far from user friendly (sorry for rant)
is there a valid reason, why the help isnt offered as installation option?

robert



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