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Hi,
I am very much an amateur with the Maya pipeline and have recently purchased the 2010 student package.
Unfortuunately I had been using combustion and got use to being able to render out a .mov or .avi to be played by anyone.
With Toxik taking combustions place, any ideas for the best way to create a .mov or similar from a image sequence? Is there any free software out there?
Thanks
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Hey,
my usual process involves rendering out an image sequence (.png most often) and taking that into a tool called virtualdub (http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net) to
create a lossless.avi with the appropriate framerate and audio (if applicable) .
Once the .avi is made I tend to compress the video to .mov with mpegstreamclip (http://www.squared5.com) or .wmv with Windows Media Encoder . I’ve had good results with
Sorenson Squeeze also .
Quite often the image sequence *can* be much smaller than the intermediary .avi so you could delete that when you’ve got your compressed versions made .
There are many other ways of doing this (avisynth is a neat tool too) but this works for me and has never let me down .
Author: nirokugraphic
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Replied: 06 November 2009 11:53 AM
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if you still have combustion, why not use it. if you have qt pro, you can also use it.
cheers,
rayk
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djv Imaging allows for direct image sequence to .Mov (though you have limited codecs and options). It is open source, so it is free,
and a great viewer of image sequences.
There is also Super© which does allow for various file type I/O, and is also free. However, it only supports limited image
sequence support, but it should support most video formats.
-Eric
Eric Craft
“The Evil Monkey hiding in your closet.”
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If you have a Quicktime Pro license, you can simply use the regular QuickTime Player on Windows or Mac OS X to open an image sequence and then play it back or export it to a
movie file. The other direction works as well, i.e. if a client hands you an MOV or AVI file, you can export that to an image sequence for use in Toxik/Shake/Nuke etc..
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I think the bottom line is we need the ability to render a .mov file direct from Toxik.
It would save a heap of time in not having to convert image seq’s through Quicktime pro or other 3rd party apps.
cheers
nicky
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Nicky,
We know this is a highly requested option and something that is being look at for a possible future release but for now you can’t render out a mov file within Maya Composite
Ken LaRue
Autodesk Application Engineer
Maya Composite / Toxik / Flame / Combustion
Training DVDs: http://www.thestreetproductions.com
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Hi sorry to jump on late on this topic ...in particular your comment. I understand autodesk current intention is to use maya2010 as development app for cg on a
workstation and then to output production quality content on a second workstation for optimal performance by running only rendering utility only. So is it that why
render node of autodesk toxik 2009 cant be installed on a workstation if its already has creative app i.e autodesk toxik 2009 installed. Well thats quite handful given
that for cg developers its not a sound solution to build their demos and look for decent job so they can purchase handful workstations for optimal performance. Havent
try maya2010 composite aka toxik 2010......well its also ringing the same bell from toxik 08 and 09
well i can only afford a workstaion build of two quad core xeon with 8gb ecc a highend quadro card two decent SAS drive and windows 7 ulti 64 right now(pretty good
enough should be/ought to be ? for both dev and render on same os?) so i am stuck with a pretty horrible workflow...any suggestion please.
Author: alphamax75
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Replied: 17 November 2009 12:47 PM
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alphamax75,
i am not quite getting why you think you would need a second (or more) workstations to render out production quality content. are you complaining about the current
licensing schema of maya2010 and maya composite, respectively? why would you want to have two installes of the same application (a render node and the ui version -
that’s what i gather from your posting) on the very same workstation?
your specs of your workstation are fine, similar to mine, beside the fact that you never can have enough render power (sure, i’d like to have my private render farm),
there wouldn#t be ne need to buy a second one.
and back on the topic of this thread. i see you would want to have a 64bit os. so i would assume, you also want to have 64bit apps running on it, be it 3dsmax, maya,
xsi, fusion, nuke, or toxik for that matter. with none of them, you would be able to output a qt.
cheers,
rayk
Author: hemmerli
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Replied: 21 November 2009 03:46 AM
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Hey All,
I will stick my ore in here and say that, yes having .mov output would be useful, however, I find myself never wanting to use movie output from comp as all major facilities use
sequences. That is used 98% of the time for production. It is not as reliable as sequences, and if you want to render a small part of the clip you need to render the entire
thing or splice mov files together, which is stupid. The point I am making is, personally the fact that TOXIK does not output movies is not missed. We just have a script outside
of it, to compile a QT if required, that is produced from the sequence. That may seem like an extra step, and it is in some ways, but overall the workflow and data management is
better and more predictable with sequences rather than QT output. So if it comes to be part of TOXIK that is fine, but i want other things that are far more important than
having QT as an output option....
cheers
Mark Rasmussen
Compositor | Consultant
Enigma Studios Inc
Enigma Studios London (UK) Ltd
http://www.toxikblog.blogspot.com
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Also, lets not forget that only a fraction of the supported OS for Toxik/Composite will work with .mov. Only Windows 32bit and OSX 32bit will be compatible with QuickTime. This
leaves out all 64bit and Linux. So of the 6 supported platforms only 1/3rd are compatible with Quicktime.
In a world moving to 64bit Apple is a large part of the problem. Until they release a 64bit SDK no one can make their 64bit applications compatible with Quicktime.
-Eric
Eric Craft
“The Evil Monkey hiding in your closet.”
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I mentioned my solution above, but the risks of rendering out a single video from any sort of 3d or post production app is far too great . It is a single point of failure you
don’t need .
What if it crashes ? What if there is a mistake in your work ? What if there is a power outage ? What if ...
Trust me, rendering to an image sequence and THEN converting to a single video is the way forward, sometimes there are corners you just don’t want to cut .
ichi | creative director
nirokugraphic | http://www.niroku.com
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What would be great is if that included Cleaner (or maybe a Cleaner Light that only includes a few of the formats that don’t require extra licensing like QT, MPEG, AVI, WMV) as
a part of the Composite Toolset. Then they don’t have to worry about adding it to Composite. Instead you render through Composite to image sequences and then convert to your
desired output format with Cleaner.
**Nudge...Nudge**
What do you think Chris V, and the higher ups, would say to that Ken?
-Eric
Eric Craft
“The Evil Monkey hiding in your closet.”
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