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Posted: 08 September 2008 01:00 AM   [ # 21 ]
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Like i said earlier: it should work, but its not a guarantee. When ever possible one should try and make things symmetrical. There are enough problems out there without having to worry about memory issues.

1+1+2+ free should work, but there’s a good chance that it wont work in “dual channel mode”, effectively halving ram speed. If it was up to me, I’d always pick 4gb over 2gb of ram, even if it meant sacrificing 50% speed. Than again, getting dual memory kit 2x2gb would be best. Some kits could be had for as low as 70$ now.

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ok ... u mean to say that i should sell my 1 gb + 1 gb ( 2 sticks of ram )
& insted of them i should buy 2 + 2 gb ram ( 2 sticks ) M I RIGHT....  so i can upgrade more 4 gb latter....

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can u tell me is my m2n-slil-delux motherboard is good enough to do all rendering job..... on asus site they said it supports amd phenom processor so my next upgrade will be amd phenom..... thats y i m asking coz new mobo’s support ddr3 & my mobo. support ddr2 ..... i dont wanna waste my money again for ddr3 if ther is a need of changing mobo again.....

& i already have all drivers for xp 64..... i asked for tutorial how to make dual boot.... any special settings for it or can i just install it in onother drive insted of c where i already have xp pro. 32 bit installed.........

 
 
 

Posted: 08 September 2008 11:04 AM   [ # 22 ]
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in short- first an apology. I forgot that you have dual core system. You dont need 4gb of ram. You need a quad core CPU.

In general, try to have equal or more ram gb than amount of cores. With dual core cpu, you wont (or really shouldnt) get into scenes that need more than 2gb of ram.

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Get phenom first. Consider getting am2+ motherboard for this.

Consider getting intel instead, as its much faster if you plan to overclock. You should plan to overclock, as you can get 1500+$ worth of CPU out of sub 200$ one.

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No CPU today can use DDR3 the way it was designed. No CPU today can utilize the faster DDR2 chips either. DDR3 is a luxury that provides up to 1% performance boost for 2x more $.

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i7 - nehalem, the new CPU from intel, due out later this year, is going to be utilizing dd3. If and when it comes out, you will need new motherboard, and ram- almost a complete new system.

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Technology changes fast. You cant buy something today and plan it to be competitive or compatible in 2 years time.

You can buy 500$ computer today that is 4x faster than 4000$ computer from 2 years ago. Plan this to be true in 2 years time and dont spend 4000$ today. Save 3500$ for the next 14 years and plan to regularly update. That is all.

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If you need help how to make the best cost/effective update today- tell me your budget and I’ll try and tell you your best options.

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Posted: 08 September 2008 09:53 PM   [ # 23 ]
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I forgot that you have dual core system. You dont need 4gb of ram. You need a quad core CPU.

In general, try to have equal or more ram gb than amount of cores. With dual core cpu, you wont (or really shouldnt) get into scenes that need more than 2gb of ram.

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Get phenom first. Consider getting am2+ motherboard for this.

Consider getting intel instead, as its much faster if you plan to overclock. You should plan to overclock, as you can get 1500+$ worth of CPU out of sub 200$ one.

ya i have dual core system.... as u said i wont neded 4 gb ram insted i need a faster proseccor ....
even i was thinking same from few days coz i m curruntly working on 140.000 polygon’s scene.... & has a lot of high-res textures scene never crashed.... but some time back i was facing some problem of restarting… so i installed new xp & updated bios.....

& YES . i m a big fan of AMD .... i ill prefer phenom also.... but in asus site my mobo which is am2 not am2+ is supported for phenom.....
but is ther any advantages for am2+ ?????/ 7 how much core it has & how much ghz it is ????/

i m not planing to overclock my cpu .... but still if intel is durable i ill go for it...... but what will be price diffrence between AMD phenom & INTEL i7 - nehalem ??????????

If you need help how to make the best cost/effective update today- tell me your budget and I’ll try and tell you your best options

YES , i need help in chossing a right rendering machine for me....

my budget is 100,000 Rs. = ( arround 2250 $ ) Rs. = indian currency.  i m assumng.... 1 $ = 45 Rs.

NOTE :- i need a durable & long lasting system atleast for 2 to 2 & 1/2 year’s.

company should privide fast after sales service or warrenty.

 
 
 

Posted: 09 September 2008 09:07 AM   [ # 24 ]
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but in asus site my mobo which is am2 not am2+ is supported for phenom

am2 supports phenom in general, but it will perform slower than on a am2+ motherboard.

the main differences in Socket AM2+ are utilised by AM2+ processors, i.e.
• HyperTransport 3.0 operating at up to 2.6 GHz
• Split power planes: one for the CPU cores, and the other for the Integrated Memory controller (IMC). This will improve power savings, especially with integrated graphics, if the CPU cores are in sleep mode but the IMC is still active.

HT 2.0 can work only at 1.4ghz almost halving the speed of interprocessor communication. In reality its not that bad, but its limiting already limited Phenom speed.

To see AMD vs intel see my post here: click on the link

To see what exact system I recommend as the most cost/effective, please click on the link

Following components there, you can have best GPU available today, 8gb of ram, and fastest CPU on planet (only if you overclock) along with 1.5Tb of hdd space, all for less than 1500$.

If you’re mostly comfortable with your current amount of ram/ viewport speed, price could easily be cut to under 1000$, as they might be an overkill for your needs.

When I said that 500$ computer is 4x faster than 4000$ computer from 2 years ago, I didn’t mention that a 1000$ computer is 2x faster than the 500$ computer today. Same is not true as the price goes up, as 4000$ computer isn’t more than 50% faster than the 1000$ one. So 1000$ is about an optimum amount of money spent on performance. Any more and you hit diminishing returns fast.

but what will be price diffrence between AMD phenom & INTEL i7 - nehalem ??????????

I’d imagine its HUGE. Phenom is slow overall compared to core2 offerings, and i7 is supposed to be much faster than core2. Running unchallenged will allow intel to impose as ridiculous prices as it sees fit.

Will i7 slowest CPU be faster than the fastest Phenom? No doubt.

Will the price difference be justifiable? I don’t think so.

Is i7 worth the wait? If you can hold on another year before upgrading- than yes. If you need something faster now, you better act now.

i7 CPU price will be one thing, but special motherboard + ddr3 ram will just quadruple the regular price of a similar performing system. It will be about a year before prices reach down to earth- so unless you’re made of money, waiting for a year is probably the sanest thing to do.

Also, core2quad running at 3+ghz will surely be a force to recon even by i7 standards. So waiting for a year with 3.6ghz c2q, shouldn’t be a problem, as i7 that is faster than c2q @ 3.6ghz would probably cost near to 2000$ for the CPU alone.

You can get c2q 6600 (200$) OC to 3.6ghz with 50$ cooler= 250$ total for 1500+$ CPU performance.

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Posted: 10 September 2008 03:48 AM   [ # 25 ]
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hi ther ....

i installed xp 64 in my pc with dual boot....

i installed max 9 its running well… but i was trying to install anti virus in it so i got some erroe saying....  this application supports sp2 or higher....  & application closed…

what to do.... i thing i accidently installed xp 64 sp1 is ther any way to upgrade it to sp 2.....................

 
 
 

Posted: 10 September 2008 05:09 AM   [ # 26 ]
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Max 4.2 through 2009 (SP1), XP-Pro 64 SP2.
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Posted: 10 September 2008 09:18 AM   [ # 27 ]
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i installed xp 64… i was trying to install anti virus in it so i got some erroe....

I did say that most 32bit programs will work fine. Antivirus and firewall are very specific pieces of software and you should try and find 64bit versions of them. They need to integrate into your OS as smoothly as possible and since you have 64bit OS, you should have 64bit security as well.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=893fd6c0-6283-44c3-bb84-b2f0315b2ae6&DisplayLang=en

accurate and fast Steve smile

Ganesh, you should install it if you dont have it already- you can check what XP version you have by right clicking on “my computer” on the desktop and choosing proprieties. You can find “my computer” in windows explorer too (windows start keyboard key + e)

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Posted: 11 September 2008 02:44 PM   [ # 28 ]
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ok i have a file in my system.... from above link u given

but as i m click on it to run.... it show an erroe like

WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB914961-SP2-x64-ENU file type is vallid but is for a machine type other then the current machine…

whats happening.... i cheacked by right click on my computer.... it shows xp 64..sp_1

 
 
 

Posted: 11 September 2008 03:23 PM   [ # 29 ]
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To be honest - I don’t know. That is the file I used on my own system - it installed perfectly. The only difference is that I went straight from the Install to SP2 (didn’t apply sp1) though that shouldn’t make any difference.

What, if anything, is different on your system to mine (the image) except the hardware?

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Posted: 12 September 2008 01:30 AM   [ # 30 ]
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ok.....can u tell me how install that file or did u install the same file by writting on cd & installing it as a fresh xp 64.....

help me....

 
 
 

   
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